Master Lock BAO0103 Ball Door Knob with Keyed Lock - Polished Brass Finish for Home, Office & Apartment Security

The two pack is not keyed a like and that was very disappointing to discover, I just happen to both sets of keys with me at the time so I was able to unlock the doors. Why advertised the two pack is keyed the same then because that was the reason I decided to buy them only to be disappoined.To begin, the full instruction sheet on the first page (the second segment) isn't as clear as it should be. Sure, if you have experience installing latches before, likely you wouldn't have a problem, but for people who've never installed door knobs before will never know "latch face" is a category "round face plate" and "face plate" fall under. If they did, then they'd know the second segment of the page is "either or", but it didn't look like that at first. At first it seemed to be saying do part 1 (left side), then part 2 (right side). Even Master Lock Tech Support on the phone, while reading the instructions along agreed it was confusing.What adds to the confusion is the fact that by default, the rectangular latch face is attached to the backplate WHILE the floating sleeve is on the latch...why? The floating sleeve, according to the instructions are only for the drive-in installation, yet it's on while the rectangular faceplate is on. I hope one can see why this somewhat increases the confusion.Thirdy, interestingly enough the rectangular part of the latch (which amazingly does not have a way to be separated from the cylindrical part, according to the instructions and on the phone with Master Lock Tech Support) requires a bigger hole to fit into than the cylindrical part. Who in their right minds would do this? What's the benefit? If anything, it would only create a problem, such as in my case, where the rectangular part cannot fit in, but the cylindrical part can. Also, when it comes to pieces...they give you two faceplates. TWO. one that snaps on the backplate and one...that doesn't, and I'm left to wonder what this one is for. It surely isn't for the drive-in.Good thing I first tried this on a door that wasn't the door to my room (which I want the knob to be on). It required further buffing out of the side hole, which is pathetic. I would not need to do this, especially since this knob pretty much falls under the same standard as my old knob (same knob size, lach face, latchbolt, screws and everything) but somehow the rectangular part of the latch HAS to be thicker here. Amazing, to say the least, and no, this isn't a slight difference where you could just shove the latch through hoping the metal material will "push" through the wooden obstacle. It's pretty noticeable.I tried to see if using my old latch would work (was like 90% confident it would) but no, it doesn't work with the design of this door knob, and I doubt the latch for my room door would suffice either, despite the fact the door knob is a little different than on the door I experimented on (room door knob needs to be opened with a pin, whereas experimental door has no locking mechanism whatsoever). The only hope I have of installing this on my room is if the latch hole is big enough to fit it, or, I buff it out also with the sandpaper and wide flathead screwdriver that I used on the exp. door. The only beef I have with that is the sawdust...call me crazy but, I literally hate the idea of sawdust flying around in my room, with all the electronics in there sensitive to that kind of stuff (all their manuals say to keep away from any kind of dust, e.g. sawdust etc. that may go inside them) I suppose putting duck tape on both side of the door knob hole would help from the sawdust floating around. Then again, it still can come out of the side hole, but that's something I'm going to have to go through to put this thing on (if the latch hole isn't big enough, that is). Also, I have to be within the room while working on this, since the door doesn't open to the outside.I'll edit this when I unscrew my old knob from my room door and see if the latch would fit. I don't have very high hopes, of course, since the knob on the door I tested on is the same brand, "Schlage", and has the same knob dimensions, etc. I may or may not buff out the latch hole, or maybe I can find a door knob that already fits my current latch hole dimensions, though I doubt I'll come across that anywhere online (or in stores, and it's much easier to find stuff online anyway).-EDIT- Changed to two stars. At first it was one.Measured the length of the rectangular parts of both the old and new latch. The new latch is 1/10 of an inch higher, whereas both cylindrical parts are equally sized. Not surprised, so I put in the dimensions of my old latch in google (8/10"), hoping to see if some latches are designed to have that height, but nothing. Either Master Lock or Schlage screwed up getting something correct. I doubt it's the latter, when Schlage actually made a CONSISTENT latch.And it turns out that the old latch on my room is identical to the other old latch for the experimental door, so I knew very well I was going to have to insert the somehow-bigger latch into the side hole. Called Master Lock Tech Support again (the same mother-effer picks up each time) and said he didn't know how the two latch pieces would separate, and there are no instructions for this anywhere, and I nor he is even sure if separating it in two is possible. There is something on it you can push in (that doesn't get pushed in by any part, nor serves a function for the knob to work), that kind of makes me think it can be, though after pushing that and trying to separate the latch, nothing happens. The latch hole on my room door was also tight as **** (you can say a little tighter than the door I first tried), though interestingly enough, I was more eager to drill the new latch in this time, and it was able to make it half-way through with just physical force. What a waste of effort, since I needed to use the wide flathead either way to buff out the entry, so that the rectangular part of the latch can fit. Covered front and back knob hole with tape to catch the sawdust. Eventually, the latch made it through, and I was able to install everything (the knob, faceplate, door frames plate, etc.) and the door is able to close and lock, and for that reason I changed this review to two, as I'm a little satisfied with the day (so you can kind of say I still give it a one...). I suppose little to no sawdust went anywhere at the end of this installation, also.So in conclusion, one, they need to be more precise with their instructions (second segment of page 1), and two, they need to make a latch that is consistent where the cylindrical and rectangular parts will always fit THE SAME HOLE. Common ****ing sense. The old latches which are arguably from 1990 or before, have this feature, so there's no excuse for this one. Had it these two things, than a 5 this would be.Finish was good, feels solid after while using. Worth the money.It looks better than I even thought it would. The ball door knob is smaller than it looks in the picture which is a good thing. It's just the right size to look good and to turn. It was not hard to install and the directions were very clear. The lock works very smoothly and I like that the locking button on the inside is a good size. The only problem I have installing doorknobs is that the plate that goes on the door jamb would be practically impossible to lineup. So I tightened up the one already there which works fine with the new lock. The only thing I'm not crazy about is the key is very big and I don't understand why they can't make a regular key. I also installed a biscuit master lock on another door. So to tell the keys apart I wanted to get a rubber key identifier that you put over it but because the key is so big I doubt that it would fit. The biscuit door knob by master lock is actually bigger than it looks in the picture, but that one was also easy to install, even though the directions for that one were very complicated . Go figure same company but two different sets of directions. The best thing about both door knobs is this – you have to actually turn the lock button to open the door from the inside so you can't lock yourself out. (I previously had one where it just opens from the inside no matter whether it's locked or not and I locked myself out. So that door knob got replaced and thrown away. ) I would recommend master lock doorknobs ...they seem like good quality and work well. I like that they can't be rekeyed. And did not want the same key for both locks.***** Something strange- I wonder if anyone else has this... when I turn the lock button on the inside of the door there is a small "chime" sound. Kinda nice, but not expected. Update: I was able to get duplicate smaller keys at the hardware store so I am now happy with that.I have an inside garage door that gets you between the garage and the laundry room and an outside door that gets you from the garage to the back yard. The doors are standard house metal doors that are typically used for outdoor to indoor exit/entry. The lock mechanism on one door was 19 years old and the knob and the rod that connects it to the locking mechanism inside the door kept pulling off the door on the inside. The other door, was hard to get locked and unlocked as the weather over 19 years had taken its toll. So, this set looked like a perfect replacement. My old locks were master Lock and these are too.And it was a fairly easy replacement. One thing you have to watch out for is that these knobs handle 2 different backsets. That is, depending on the door you have and where the holes are drilled to handle your knobs, the lock mechanism that pops out the side and slides into your door frame to lock/latch the door, has 2 different settings. A 2-3/8-inch or 2-3/4-inch backset. The door knob comes preset with the 2-3/4-inch backset and my door had a 2-3/8-inch backset which means the hole in the lock part of the mechanism did not line up with the door knob post. So, you have to read the directions to change the backset. I scratched my head a few times until I figured out what the instructions were trying to tell me, and then it adjusted fine and I was able to pop in the new door knobs. These were direct replacements so they work fine on my doors with no problems. I would buy these again.I was HOPING that buying a 2 lock set would get me 4 keys....WRONG!! ONLY 2 KEYS....sooo now I get to pay for gas AND keys.I have bought a few cheaper locksets in the past and always had quite a time installing them. This one fit right in on the first try. It seems sturdier than others that are a bit less expensive, but this one seems solid.Some products specifically mention "keyed alike". This one does not. I expected it to be keyed different. But it was keyed alike. I now have 2 door knobs with 2 identical keys. Keys unlock both doors.Later I ordered 2 mare pairs to find all 4 locks keyed alike!To sum up, I ordered 3 sets that ended up as 1(a keyed alike pair) + 2 (4 locks keyed alike in 2 packages). I had contacted the MasterLock customer service and they falsely assured me that only locks in a package were keyed alike. packs shipped at the same time were also keyed alike. So I ended up with 4 locks keyed alike - not what I was expecting!----- Customer Service Email -----Hello,Thank you for your email.Only the locks within the one package will be keyed alike.Each package will come with two keys.----- End of Customer Service Email -----Otherwise, replacing the unkeyed bedroom door knob with a keyed doorknob was easy as they were the same size. I did not have to change the strike or the latch assembly. A small design problem is that the position of the screws are such that there is little space to operate a screw driver (even a hand operated one. But since that is a one time pain, It is bearable.Another update: Bought another 2 pack - the keys to these locks were different from the other locks I had bought earlier - looks like the locks are randomly keyed with no attempts to distribute similarly keyed locks into different lots. So, if you want multiple locks that are keyed differently, you might have to buy more than needed & return the lock sets that are identically keyed (only sure way), or space out buying them across many weeks and hope you get locks from different lots.My use case - key different rooms of my house differently.I thought it would take me forever to do this but I was totally wrong. Looked up a quick 5 minute video on YouTube. Took me 10 minutes to do the first one as I had a hard time lining up the screws but once I did it was done in seconds. Second door was a couple minutes. Nice finish so far.this is my third master lock ive bought for my place so far and I find there the best locks you can buy.This one came with 4 keys which is a bonus and was easy to install and works smooth.What more can I say than if your looking for a lockset look no further this set is the best bang for your buck.My olderest master lock set is over 4 years old with no issues and still looks like the day I installed itHad to buy in a rush so although they work fine I struggle Abita putting the key in. You have to spend time to line it up. I never had to do this before not as firm as other locks I have but ok for the price and same key for both locks is a bonusI received this today and installed it myself with zero previous door knob experience and without reading the instructions. Nailed it. Opens from both inside AND outside, unless I tell it not to. Meets all my expectations in a locking door knob. Who decided all door knob screws should be in an IMPOSSIBLE TO ACCESS AREA, though? That's sort of BS.